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David Stone

"Stop hiding, start learning, evolve, win. Don't you think?"

Spot on. I like the Calacanis quote "As Internet people we shoudn't bother with people who don't understand the Internet because they'll be dead soon"

http://twitter.com/loiclemeur/statuses/494641312

Will McInnes

Dave - thanks for pointing out the Calacanis quote, it's excellent and I plan to start using it at every talk and meeting :) Enjoyably breathtakingly arrogant, but actually true.

Rob

I'm not sure how much of it is being scared of risk, it's more just lack of understanding - the fact that whatever proposition you give they don't know if it'll 'work' or not, because they've no experience in that field. So if we do something that someone else has done, it's 'proven' as a 'real workable thing' (too many quotation marks, sorry).

For example, there's no real way of saying which of our ads currently running is doing anything for us, or indeed if any of them are, which in theory could be scary as we're paying so much money for them. But it's easier for someone in Marketing to 'get' an ad, for them to understand how it works, regardless of whether it actually works in the real world or not. We think we understand ads, and understand the process, so we'll do it. It's much harder for someone who doesn't use social media to 'get' a proposal along those lines. So I'm not sure it's fear of risk per se, more a case of not understanding, so being afraid whether what we're doing is 'right' or not. The fear of being wrong as an individual (hence the worry of the 'invisible person' you mention above) in some people in some organisations is greater than the fear of something that everyone agreed should be done not working.

Rob

I've just read that back and I'm not sure I've been clear. Hmm.

roger warner

ha - well put will. (damn well wish we'd written this one up!).

go bash heads.

marketing is by definition a risky business. our job is to flirt. to ask 10 gals and only get the one. by whatever means - social media (nerdy flirting), trade shows (possibly infectious disease flirting), PR (shy but smart, have your friends do it on your behalf flirting)

thats all there is to it. not a job for civil servants!

Tim Aldiss

Doesn't this run deeper through society Will? I mean doesn't the fear of being pownced about by a pack of yobs who are drinking beer while leaning on your car make the average Joe think twice before syaing anything these days?

I think the revolution should continue... we need to be heard!

Each of us have a responsibility to speak up, and if there is a commercial risk then a basic framework of understaning and a bit of knowledge sharing is needed.

Will McInnes

Tim - I think you're right, but that's scary. It's easy for me to encourage marketers to take more risks, but when you put it in the context of us 'running towards' the risks of a pack o' yobs that strikes fear into my lavender-fragranced heart!

Maybe we are constantly in fear of everything all the time. Hmmmm!

pkontopoulos

It's so strange that I got into your post about social media risks and the million questions on how to avoid them. It's so common in my everyday business talks these days, that I have stopped pitching about the hows and what you can benefit, focusing on how risky is what i am suggesting.

On the other side we can see it positively, business people got into phase #2 in their social media excursion, they now know what social media is, they understand that there is value but they need to quantify it and are afraid to test.
It's a progress after all!

Great post. I should translate it in Greek.

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